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title = "Python Losing the 2nd Place on Loved Languages: A Thought" |
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date = 2020-06-08 |
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tags = ["python", "typescript", "stackoverflow", "survey"] |
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On this year StackOverflow Survey, Python lost its 2nd place to TypeScript. On |
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our Python group, people started wondering why that. And I just thought it |
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would be nice to post my thoughts on the situation. |
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Before anything, I may have do make a disclaimer saying that I do love Python, |
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and I think it is a great language 'cause it is very concise but also very |
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expressive. I don't think any other language get close to Python in doing |
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those points so well. |
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Disclaimer done, let me explain why I think Python lost its second place in |
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the hearts of developers. |
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## Types |
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One of the first thoughts one can think when we talk about "losing a |
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position" in any rank is "because it got worse". But I really don't think this |
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is what happened here, and what actually happened is that TypeScript shown |
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developers something better. |
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TypeScript is aimed to JavaScript development, a zone where anything goes, |
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types are very flexible and magical -- to the point what most of things |
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actually produce a [Wat](https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat). By |
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using types, making sure you're not adding a string to an array, a lot of |
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problems suddenly disappear. It is no silver bullet, but it fixes a whole |
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class of issues that would popup in production. |
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So, in an environment that chaotic things happen, suddenly you have something |
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that puts order back and you gotta love it for that. Surely, it's not just |
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types that make TypeScript more loved than JavaScript, but it is partially |
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why. |
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(Just to add to this point: Rust is still the most loved language 5 years in a |
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row, and it uses some pretty strong typing, close do Haskell, with added |
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syntax closer to what most languages use.) |
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I still believe that, in the long run, type hinting can fill the gap for |
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Python to reach the proper position. I'd love to use it to add hinting in all |
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functions and then have something that I could set the level of checking on |
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different environments: make the application crash if the function was called |
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with the wrong types on development environment; just log (logging or stderr) |
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on staging; and do absolutely nothing on production. That would allow me to |
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use the best of both worlds: Dynamic when developing, but static when testing. |
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## Python 2 is dead |
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One of the things that happened to Python in the beginning of this year, when |
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the survey was done, was that Python 2 became unsupported. Surely, that |
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doesn't mean any Python 2 installation would stop working, but it gave an |
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extra jump to porting things to Python 3. |
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And, even with all the backporting and improvements in Python 3, it was not a |
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smooth sail. That change, that forced change, may have let some Python devs |
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with some bitter taste about the language. No one wants to just fix changes in |
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the language, when the way things work must still work, quirks and all. |
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## Hype |
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Python is not a hyped language anymore. |
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Sure, it is still a reference for machine learning and related fields, but the |
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once thriving environment of web dev was taking by the hype of other |
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languages. |
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Python is not the hot stuff on web dev anymore. And because it is not the hot |
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stuff, people don't _want_ the old stuff; the old stuff is not cool anymore, |
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so they don't like it anymore. |
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## Side-point |
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One point not raised by anyone in the group: Although Python lost its second |
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place, it is still the most wanted language -- meaning, it is the language |
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most developers _want_ to learn. If the general feeling was "Python sucks!", I |
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pretty much doubt the want would still be representative -- and Python have a |
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large lead compared to JavaScript. |
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